QFC15 - Cheap and cheerful [FINALS OUT]

BMA Compaq GTTi 2.0

Back to basics: A longitudinal 2.0L 6-inline coupled to a turbo: 130 hp sent to the rear wheels through a 5-speed manual. 4 disc brakes, AM/FM radio with a cassette player, power-steering comes as standard on this trim.

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VF Disco MKI GTI ('82 facelift)

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Waldersee Attache K16i

The second-generation Attache, released in 1979, was the very first front-drive car that Waldersee produced; Attaches would remain the company’s sole front-drive product, deriving viability from lending their platform to Callahan and Arlington subcompacts of similar vintage. To ingratiate itself to skeptical purists, the Attache kept most of the RWD car’s general body shape and a familiar ‘shovel nose’ front end, while receiving a significant upgrade in the form of independent rear suspension.

The Attache’s sole engine prior to 1983 was the Waldersee iron-block, twelve-valve i4. In the high-revving hot-hatch K16i guise, the engine displaced 1.6 liters, had a proper port injection system, and pushed out a thunderous 115 horsepower. Owing to the car’s relatively low 2040 lbs weight and 0.31 coefficient of drag, this made it capable of an 8.3-second 0-60 sprint and - if you dared - a top speed of 134 mph, pulling even in fifth gear. Also included was a sporty front-camber suspension with sway bars that made handling legitimately impressive for a 1982 car with regular street tires.

All the while, this hatch remained true to Waldersee’s premium philosophy: the cassette player might not have been as feature-rich as that in larger Waldersees, but it was still built to last. The seats might have been cloth, but the rear bench sat two and was positioned further back for more legroom. And while the suspension wasn’t some sort of air-sprung wonder, gas shocks were standard all the same. All this for a reasonable $12,300.

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Who thought that a Volvo 343 could blend that well with a Mazda 323 and a Vauxhall Chevette? :rofl: Nice.

the Vietta Medio 4-2 SLC. That time that Vietta tried to appeal to the kids by literally tearing everything that could be torn out, and making it light as possible. It actually cost less than the base model too


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Stellar Mora RS15 Injection

In the 1970s, Stellar UK’s lineup saw a shift from domestic, British-designed models to Japanese, Homura-sourced cars. Stellar UK was at this time working on moving it’s lineup towards FWD, but due to the state of both the British and global economy, parent company Turból deemed it more financially prudent to halt Stellar UK’s FWD platform development and to badge engineer FWD Homura products instead. The timing worked out. Homura’s range of French-inspired, boxer-powered FWD cars were hardly exciting, but were practical and economic choices that kept Turból’s European operations viable in a difficult time.

Entering the growing B-segment in 1974 was the cutely-named Stellar Squid. Featuring FWD, flat 4 engines, and fully independent suspension with McPherson struts up front and trailing arms in the rear, Stellar UK was given the greenlight to produce a stylish, sporty liftback coupe variant. The Mora was introduced in 1979, with similar mechanicals, but with a wider and lower stance under a crisp modern design.

The RS15 Injection added some sportiness to the Mora’s driving dynamics to back up the sporty looks. Though it was still first and foremost a budget model, and it would be overshadowed by far more impressive Mora trims later in the 80s, the early RS15s such as this made a respectable 92 horsepower from the 1.5 liter flat four thanks to throttle body injection. 0-100 kmh could be achieved in 10.4 seconds, and a sportier suspension tuned was paired with 15" alloy wheels a sporty appearance package to round out the offering.

See previous post here. Legion has since been re-named Stellar.

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I hope the door stays on lmao

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NAV Rimini 1000 Turbo
Because a liter of beer is great, so why not the engine in your car as well? That is, if it’s our modern turbo-charged fuel injected liter of fun.
We built the Rimini for Reasonable People, but some markets have a higher bar for keeping up with traffic. Enter the 0-100 in less than 10 seconds, 186 km/h 90bhp Turbo.
“Salmon ladder”, fog lights, super fly wheels and a really functional hood scoop set it apart from 44hp volume model.
It still has 5 doors and 5 seats because setting up manufacturing for an inferior niche variant is a PITA we are such a nice company giving free extra features.
For the mere price of 10000DM, we can’t guarantee you get 10000 Lovers in one, but at least it’s afforable and reliable.

More 1 liter of Milk




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Awww, look at it cock it’s little wheel up in the corners.

Submissions are now closed!

Have now complete entries from:
@Arn38fr
@Maverick74
@GassTiresandOil
@Knugcab

Additional complete submissions received in the last 48 hours from:
@Jaimz68
@Bbestdu28
@ACoolCrab
@Texaslav
@IDK158
@donutsnail
@Ludvig
@LS_Swapped_Rx-7

Overall 29 entries received. Am I missing anyone?

Part 1: Bins and Warnings

(OOC, because that’s easier)

@nukedathlonman Mogwai 1200A-4 BIN for naming convention (neither car model name nor engine family name are ‘QFC15 - nukedathlonman’), too much techpool (all 5) AND wrong fuel type (regular unleaded). Sportiness stat of 2 doesn’t bode well either.

@DucetheTruth100 Axxus Marlin BIN for trim and variant year set to 1980 instead of 1982. FYI: Among the most expensive running costs. You left five techpool points on the table.

@IDK158 K158 Vietta Medio 4-2 SLC. BIN for just 2 seats. Also wrong fuel type (regular unleaded) and terribly uncomfortable (2.8).

@crwpitman1 Canmo Sprint Engine family doesn’t follow naming convention (should be identical to car model name). Warning only (since QFC), normally this will be a bin otherwise, the rest is formally fine.

@doot BM 1921. Wrong fuel type (regular unleaded). Warning only since QFC and it’s a slight disadvantage. In many other challenges, this’d be a bin.

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Oh, sorry. Leaded in the 80s really threw me off.

Luckily Andi did what I would do: As long as it isn’t an advantage, a bin shouldn’t be the only way to deal with it. The other way - using leaded when unleaded is required - would be worse and propably even the most generous host will bin.
Having said that, I was binned twice due to techpool, a feature that is not really to my taste but well, most people consider it interessing.

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say WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHERE DID MAH SEATS GO

Techpool can be really annoying. Set it/apply and then exit the car, reload the car. I can prove that if you apply a change and then jump to another tab, it will not keep the change.

It also separates how it updates engine tech and car tech. When I adjust tech points I make sure to cycle through engine and body screens a couple times so that they BOTH update. Otherwise, it won’t update changed engine tech until the next time you load the car (if you stay on the drivetrain or suspension screens, for example).

Part 2: Reviews

After having made the decision to get his first own set of wheels, Stefan sits down with the recent issues of ACAD Motorzeitung, BildAuto and Motor, Wagen und Sport and compiles a list. Stefan then decides to get a second opinion from his friend Harry - who is much more of a car nerd than he is - about his candidates on the long list.

For some reason, Harry suggests to have the talk over the brand new text chat system in their university’s computer labs.

Images shown appear in Stefan and Harry’s mind only, not on the text-only chat system



Stefan> Hello Harry

Harry> Hey Stefan - isn't this new chat system great? We can talk to each other from the opposite side of the campus, and it can do lowercase characters, word wrap and even 80 columns!

Stefan> Didn't we want to talk about cars?

Harry> Right, yeah - so what's the first car on your list?

@Texaslav

STEFAN> First, the Waldersee Attache K16i

HARRY> Good sportiness, comfort, reliability and running costs, average price, not the best safety. Solid looks, and they must have other colours, too.


@Maverick74
STEFAN> Next is the Cambridge Kobold SL 1.7

HARRY> Quite cheap to buy, average running costs, good drivability and reliability. The red stripe elevates the otherwise understated apperance.


@Conan
STEFAN> How about the Gascar 1015 1.6 GTi

HARRY> Cheapest to run and best reliability, but quite expensive and quite low drivability and sportiness.


@abg7
STEFAN> And the AMS Vanga 160R?

HARRY> Good sportiness and running costs, but quite expensive to buy. Below average in the other 2star categories. 15 techpool points left over.


@ACoolCrab
STEFAN> Next is the VF Disco I - 1.9 GTI

HARRY> Very good sportiness, but 2nd highest running costs and 2nd worst comfort comfort, worst reliability and safety. Great looks though.


@Arn38fr
STEFAN> Now the Decarlis D10 Turbo

HARRY> Looks fine, but expensive to run, low-ish reliability, average otherwise.


@Bbestdu28
STEFAN> What do you think of the BMA Compaq GTTi 2.0

HARRY> Among the most expensive to buy and run, worst drivability by quite a margin (38.8). 20 techpool points left on the table.


@Ch_Flash
STEFAN> And the Lesovo Vista GT?


HARRY> Good comfort, but the most expensive car in the field, quite high running costs, low reliability and sportiness.


@crwpitman1
STEFAN> Or the Canmo Sprint?

HARRY> Among the worst drivability and comfort in the field, good safety, average otherwise


@donutsnail
STEFAN> Next is the Stellar Mora RS15 Injection

HARRY> Good to very good stats across the board, fantastic looks - only quite expensive to buy.


@doot
STEFAN> How about the BM 1921?

HARRY> Good sportiness, but highest running costs and low-ish reliability. Average otherwise.


@Happyhungryhippo
STEFAN> Next up, the Globus Stallion 22S

HARRY> Very cheap to buy, but quite average running costs. Third lowest sportiness in the field, decent otherwise. Not the biggest fan of the front.


@Hilbert
STEFAN> And the Veleta Dante 1.8 16V?


HARRY> Among the most expensive to buy and run - not surprising as a convertible. Low reliability and sportiness, otherwise average. 12 techpool points left on the table.

@Jaimz68
STEFAN> Next on the list, the FM StreetSport

HARRY> Great sportiness and running costs, great looks, but not that safe, rather expensive to buy and uncomfortable.


@Karhgath
STEFAN> Maybe the Régal 143E?

HARRY> Okay purchase cost, cheap to run, very good reliability, but not that drivable.


@Knugcab
STEFAN> Or the IP Commuter 1500 Turbo coupé?

HARRY> Above average on reliability and sportiness, but only average in all other areas, and quite expensive to run to boot.


@Lanson
STEFAN> Up next the Siskin 1.8 Sport

HARRY> Best drivability and tied for best comfort, but low reliability. Average purchase and running cost, quite understated apperance.


@lotto77
STEFAN> And the Halvson Newton Quad Valve?


HARRY> Quite expensive to run and lowest reliability in the field. Good sportiness though, average or below otherwise.


@Ludvig
STEFAN> How about the NAV Rimini 1000 Turbo ?

HARRY> Cheap to buy and run, good reliability, not the most drivable, low comfort. The solid visual presence belies the cheap price.


@mart1n2005
STEFAN> Just a few more. What do you think of the Harris 1300 turbo-tronics conversion?

HARRY> Nicely cheap to buy but quite expensive to run. Solid reliability but below average safety and drivability.


@oppositelock
STEFAN> Or the GSI Bantam 1600XS?


HARRY> Quite cheap to buy and run, low on safety, average otherwise. Diminutive in size, but good looks.

@S_U_C_C_U_L_E_N_T
STEFAN> Next up is the Hinode Coronet GT-Turbo Fastback


HARRY> Very good comfort and sportiness, but second most expensive car, high running costs, tied for 2nd lowest drivability.

@Vento
STEFAN> Maybe the Razor… without a trim name?

Vento

HARRY> Not too cheap to buy and run. Good comfort and best safety though, decent stats otherwise. Not a great looker either.


@xsneakyxsimx
STEFAN> And the Ascot Janissary ES 1.6?


HARRY> Very cheap to buy and run, but low sportiness and very low comfort (8.7) with no remedying performance in the other categories.

@GassTiresandOil
STEFAN> Two more - first the Kessel Vogel Turbo

HARRY> Nicely affordable to buy and run, very comfortable but lowest sportiness among the regular field.


@LS_Swapped_Rx-7

STEFAN> And last is the W****** Luna 134 Sport

HARRY> Why does the brand name appear masked in stars?

STEFAN> Perhaps a new swear word filter in this chat system?

HARRY> Maybe. Anyway, quite cheap to buy, cheap to run, good reliability, quite low on safety, average otherwise. Not the most exuberant appearance if you ask me.

Out of the remaining entries, the following six advance to the final (test drive) round (in order of appearance):

That concludes the review part, stay tuned for the announcement of the winner and the final ranking!

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Splitspeed 75/1200 bps? :rofl:

Wow, that was again a very fast host. I expected the first round in a few days.
However I am astonished the “Stallion” (looking at the car, one must actually put its name in brackets), left behind many entries that looked not only visually better, but also very competetive.

I knew my car was fitting perfectly into this, but my rapid coupe-conversion scored better than I have expected. Among the finalists I am reading well-known names that already won the one or other challenge and this makes me somehow proud.
However, I am sure I won’t win because the low sportiness is a concern and the realistic “cheap US car”-styling is something I shot myself in the foot with - ultra-cheap American junk stays basically junk, even if slightly tuned for the EU market.

Techpool? I see no place in the free form to see that let alone adjust that… Or is that a game mod (while I have lot’s of add-ons form the workshop, I have no “mods” that change the game’s behavior)… This one I’m very confused on. Ah-ha - just found it… Didn’t even know about that… :crazy_face: Well, learned something new (like a few other things such as how to apply pillar fixtures).

Sporty of 2 - well, good thing I didn’t submit the super uncomfortable manual car (I wasn’t aiming for sporty - must be the pin stripe). ROFL

Could one even put leaded fuel in a catalyst car (that would poison the catalytic converter)? Meh

And didn’t realize that had to be in the name - I thought it was meant to be in the file name. Oh well, DQ’d is okay with me.