exactly. i’m providing all the example of what NOT to follow 
so bad 
If your character says that the ones who would be working on the vehicles are familiar with OHV and Carburettors, but someone who won’t fix the vehicles wants to see more complex valvetrains and EFI, most people are going to play the safe route and build OHV carburetted engines.
As @strop said, many of us are fine with pulling the novelty entry with V12 (there’s been one in every round, I think, since V12 was introduced to the game), or an entry which stands no chance, but was done just to fill out the numbers and get a review. Others, like myself and many of the regulars who haven’t won a round yet, are gunning for that first place finish. Especially if we’ve got a round plan in mind, or several plans.
So yeah, you mentioned a heavy leaning to old tech, implemented a stiff penalty (1/12th of your budget evaporates if you use basic EFI) to new tech, and you’re finding out that most people will play it ultra-safe to win. I know I won’t win this round, but not from lack of trying.
that’s one example of the result of the bad wording
i was trying to imply, i ALONG with the mechanics. which means both, will work on the car…
anyway, i can’t change it now, and let’s just go along with how it is now. heavy preferences of the existing tech.
I’m still working on mine - it’s left of centre mechanically…
i dont think extra $1000/car for EFI tutor lesson just not worth it, not gonna question the logic and balance behind it. what i get it your mechanic will still prefer the carb no matter what even you get lesson to maintenance the EFI, same as the valve system since the mechanic pretty much die hard of pushrod but if we choose other valve system like SOHC/DOHC there no penalty like the fuel system.
what i see now people pretty much go all out siding with staff in engine departement and go for fancy stuff for interior/drive assist to make Hamish happy since looks is the most important and he probably wont touch the engine like at all and the staff wont complain about that either since they dont need to tweak it. Hamish will rarely use the car but he is the one who gonna buy the cars for company. the staffs is the one who gonna need to adjust with the engine but not the car in general since as long it can go off the road, haul stuffs, and have better fuel economy is okay, it doesnt mention if they go in extreme road or anything like that since the only mentioned field condition is sometimes thet need to go barren place where good fuel barely exist.
well the point of the lesson is to make them ‘understand’ it. so their bias is at the very least reduced.
and i have also tried any OHC engine setup. more power? sure. but i just can’t find any way to get the reliability as high as pushrod. and instead. like it already put into the rule. the injection systems actually have more effect than the valvetrain. and actually. it has more efficiency that i thought it would.
apparently i didn’t tinker enough with pushrod when designed the challenge… it’s much cheaper than thought it is
actually. you forgot the 10% markup there.
Crap! This is my fourth almost exactly the same vehicle, I kept getting Lua errors which meant I had to restart from scratch that many times. 
I’ll update it!
Just to be clear, you’ll be judging the entries based on how the original brief is worded (better to have older tech and such), or should I try to get a resubmission to better fit with the discussion since?
since i can’t change anything, and expecting every single entrant to read everything is not really what i want to do.
it’ll be based on the original brief. heavy preference with existing tech.
ignore the max RPM increase and dont use race intake, mine have almost same reliability both pushrod and SOHC although the pushrod is big higher.
at least im happy enough to sent my entry later enough to tinker 
i’ve swapped to a 4 tub. surprisingly more comfortable, if a little less performance and economy. still, i’m producing idiot levels of torque.
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Smooth Rodrigo XT
At 11990 it’s too expensive for mpfi. But cutting 1000 of the budget for lessons is not acceptable and so are ancient carbs. Maybe this puts it out of competition…but maybe you should try our car and see that Rodrigo gets shit done.
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nice 
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After @Spool revised his entry there is no doubt it actually performs well, but the name is odd and it doesn’t offer as much practicality or utility. And the bright magenta is more at home on late 60s/early 70s muscle cars like the Plymouth 'Cuda. Still made me laugh, though: my first reaction was “WTF??? A magenta turbo truck?” I quickly knew that adding a turbo, at least two extra cylinders (my car does just fine with only four) or at least one overhead cam wouldn’t be necessary for my entry, though, and not just for reliability’s sake: Even with EFI, I was able to keep costs down with my overhead-valve 2.4-liter straight-four - in the current stable release my car costs just $11k including markups.
you’ve been different with design this time. i like, i like.
@abg7 hey-oh, 9.2 litre V12 over here…
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Wow thats a very long time to build a car for this.