I wish I could join back in on this, sadly my PC is still out of service for the long term so I unfortunately have to sit this one out :c
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TEAM OUTRIDERS
Back from the Roulette challenge with a new attitude and a new member.
Blake Worden:
Age: 56
Role: Driver/Mechanic
Blake Worden was head of the Tatum Heights Motor Pool until his retirement last year, he now takes to amateur racing as a hobby. His driving is assertive but not overly aggressive.
Marc Levinstein:
Age: 53 (Happy birthday Marc)
Role: Driver/Navigator
Marc Levinstein is an officer in the Tatum Heights Police Department. On his days off he often goes out with Blake to track meets to use his police training to his advantage on the track. His driving is aggressive but efficient, far from his normally calm demeanor.
Luigi Fillipelli
Age: 49
Role: Mechanic/Backup Driver
Luigi Fillipelli is a newcomer to the team, he provided assistance over the phone during Team Outriders Roulette challenge which proved invaluable in keeping the team from elimination early on. His driving is skilled but not overly assertive, he tends to be more cautious behind the wheel.
The three men remain great friends despite the often heated banter between them, especially between Luigi and Marc. (In the interests of decorum I will not go into full detail regarding the dialogue between the two, but let’s just say they’re not things you would say about Italians or Jews in polite company)
The car: 1997 Petoskey Enforcer
Yup, the car returns for another round, this time with some changes. During the Roulette challenge the engine suffered from a rather catastrophic failure involving a valve dropping out of the head and rattling around in the cylinder. Miraculously, the car soldiered on to the finish line, hence why Blake was willing to stick with this car. Plans to overhaul the 301 TriForce V8 had to be put on hold due to a delay in parts delivery, knowing they would not meet the deadline for the challenge, Blake sought another solution. During a long weekend, Blake called city mechanic Luigi Fillipelli over and the two men set to work. Since they couldn’t get the parts to rebuild the engine in time, they resorted to swapping the motor out. In particular a 1995 Stag Big Chief which was sitting in his backyard. Working tirelessly through the weekend, the two men hoisted the engine and transmission out of both vehicles and put the truck powertrain in the car. With only 121,000 on the Odometer, the 432 Big Block is in superb mechanical shape along with the 4RE7 transmission. Filling new differential fluid and swapping out the wheels and brakes from a 2007 Enforcer, (Surplus auction as Tatum Heights just decommissioned its last Enforcer) Slapping on a push bar in the front, they had a new beast ready for the challenge.
It’s got cop tires, cop brakes, and a truck motor.
P.S. The team possesses a Petoskey XGV Scan tool which would be capable of scanning basic codes on any vehicle 1996 or newer (Very basic, anything manufacturer specific would not be listed) The team would be willing to assist anyone with mechanical issues.
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sure, why not
Can I join?
Triple team @JohnWaldock ?
And does this mean our RPs all fit and we use 3 separate cars or only one car? I would assume 3, or I hope
While their trusty if very noisy Erin Berlose will not be making a return, Team ‘Southend Or Bust’ will be back - in a different Erin…
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EDIT: not sure why this posted as a reply to Sillyducky…
TEAM: Clutch Droppers
A bunch of friends starting college in the fall that want one last hoorah before they split up to different colleges. (The following RP is based on true events. Names, places, and events have been altered to protect the identity of those involved CSI dun dun sound)
Ryan - Early 20’s, software developer, and hobbiest mechanic. He enjoys the outdoors and spent most of his life in the Boy Scouts. He is pretty handy with most anything mechanical or involving rope or fire, but he is piss poor at following written instructions without constant intervention due to his ADHD. Must have a constant supply of water and beef jerky to survive. Currently drives a 1992 Jeep he restored and lifted, manual of course.
Jason - 19 (his birthday and early schooling makes him stupid young), mechanical engineer, and almost completely inept with vehicles. He knows the basic bits of a car, but no clue how to diagnose or fix anything on a car, included simple things like light bulbs. He just takes his car in for service for everything. However, he can follow instructions really well, so he can help as long as you tell him what to do… step by step. Will die without a Mountain Dew every 8 hours. Drives a beat-to-hell Chrysler.
Bob - “me, for this challenge”. Mid 20’s, network engineer, hobbiest mechanic, and all around handy-man. If it is mechanical or electrical, he can fix it… given enough time and the internet. Although a bit fat and out of shape, Bob is as comfortable squeezing under a jacked up car to replace an alternator as he is sitting in front of a computer for 20 hours straight. Must have food and a bathroom break roughly every 5 hours. Currently drives a 2004 Volvo that has had nearly every servicable part replaced by Bob, but its Automatic because Bob destroys clutches.
After hearing about this challenge they decided to pool their money and join in on the fun before they all split up for college. After scouring the classifieds they found the following car for sale within a reasonable distance:
They decided to head over to the guy’s house to give the car a once-over and try to haggle the price down to about $500.
After pulling up at the dude’s house it was clear this was not just a car guy (I mean, look at all those cars in his driveway), but this was some stupid “racer” kid. This meant haggling the price down should be easy! While Bob was talking with the kid about the car’s history, Ryan was under the car checking for leaks, rust, damage, etc., and Jason was checking out the interior of the car.
Bob - Talking with the kid revealed both a lot of information… and very little at the same time. He had bought the car about 3 years ago from an old lady with about 310,000 miles on it and it was in pretty good condition. Now, this kid is a self-proclaimed “racer” and mechanic, he told me that he drove the car hard for the first few months to see how it still performed after all these years and miles. He decided to visit the junkyard to transplant a turbo into this car to give it some pep. Its a fairly lightweight car and adding some more power to it would make it fun, he said. in the process of installing the turbo he messed up the fog lights, they now turn on and off with the turn signals. He also said he had a few minor bumps in the front and rear, but only it only caused cosmetic issues. To cover up the dented and scrapped bumpers he decided to spray paint the whole thing in matte camo-green (because kids have trash taste). Additionally, when installing the turbo he had to swap out the exhaust with one from another car, making the car louder, as well as swapping in a performance intake to make room for the intercooler and turbo piping. Outside of the work he had done on the car, he really did not know anything out the previous 310,000 miles the thing had driven. All of this info was making it easier and easier for me to haggle the price down.
I turned back to Ryan and Jason to see what they had to say about the car.
Jason - The interior looks pretty good… but only in the back. Honestly, I don’t think anyone has ever sat in the back of this car… but the driver’s seat is worn down to almost nothing. The interior plastics have become discolored and there is a mystery stain in the trunk. Most of the internal lights seem to be out, but that should be easy to fix? The guages all work, but there is a guage I have never seen that says “boost” on it. Do you know what that is about? Anyway, I can’t see anything completely off about it… its about as nice on the inside as my crappy car.
Ryan - Where to start… the shocks are blown, the engine and turbo are leaking oil, the battery voltage is low, it should be replaced soon, I am going to assume the engine is also burning some oil based on the smell of the exhaust and the car’s age. The rear drum brakes definitely need adjusted and probably replaced, the A/C belt is missing, and the thing is painted in the most unholy of all paints… matte. These wheels are definitely not standard at 17" with sport compound tires, but aside from being some sort of really cheap rim, the paint is coming off, they look alright to drive on. O yeah, and the bumpers are from a completely different car… I assume to hide the fact that the front and rear bumper rails are smashed pretty good.
Bob - Turning back to the kid with a wide smile, I went about haggling the price down based on all these problems that he tried to gloss over and minimize in his ad. After a few minutes arguing over the car’s current condition and the work and money he had put into the car, he caved, admitting he really needed the money to enter some race coming up with one of his other cars. (just looking at the cars he had and their condition, I figured he was bound to loose, but whatever makes you happy). We settled on $500 and were ready to join the challenge. As we drove away with our new car we decided to take it into a local shop to get the car checked out to see how bad off it really was.
Bob - Driving off from the kid’s house it was immediately apparent that the car had some serious power for what it was. Normally with a cheap little eco-box from the 90’s you could not spin the wheels no matter how hard you hammered the gas, but this thing could do a burnout up to 60kmh, not bad. Before meeting my comrades at the tire shop I had to jump on the freeway to see what this thing could do. Hammering up the on-ramp the wheels squeeled a bit, but those sports tires definitely gave it some much needed grip at lower speeds. The The turbo kicked in pretty low at about 2400 rpm, ramping up the power hard until about 3200 rpm. The automatic tranny was showing its age however, taking almost a full second to switch from 2nd to 3rd and hesitating to downshift when punching the gas pedal in 4th. Flooring it along a straight section of freeway with almost no traffic, I was able to push the car to about 120mph, but it was still SLOWLY gaining speed. I can’t wait to put this thing on a dyno.
Pulling into the shop I got a lot of grossed-out faces from the mechanics at the styling and color of the car, but for $500, I was fully on-board with this little beater. While the staff rolled car onto the dyno I discussed my little test drive with Jason and Ryan, both seemed pretty impressed at what we got out hands on for the money.
After the dyno run finished we took a look at the results. About 253 NM of torque @ 3200 rpm and 189 hp @ 6100 rpm sounded fantastic for this little inline 4, maybe swapping in a turbo was just what it needed. Additionally, we now knew that the car did 0-100 kmh in 7s flat… it was time to research this car a bit further. Looking up the factory specs for the car online showed us that the engine originally only made 180 nm @ 3400 rpm, 133 hp @ 6200 rpm, and did 0-100 kmh in a staggeringly slow 9.2s. Even Ryan, a naturally aspirated purist, admitted those were some great gains, just from a slapped on turbo.
After going over the car with a fine comb at the shop, we came up with a list of all the problems with the car:
Rust… everywhere
Damaged front and rear bumper rails
Mismatched bumpers
Turbo and engine leak oil
Engine burns oil
Windshield wipers always on - pulled the fuse for now to stop them
Fog lights activate with turn signals
Blown shocks
Cheap after-market rims
MATTE PAINT!!!
Battery and rear drum brakes need replaced
Interior is heavily worn… but only in the front
Hood and trunk gas-pistons (for opening and holding them open) are completely blown
End-links need replaced
A/C needs a belt
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Does this mean we choose another person if you Bob and buy our own car or do we all work on this together?
I am doing this on my own, I don’t know why the post went up as a reply to you. VicVictory says we have a “team” but its just each person role-playing as multiple people making up a team. I am sure real people can work together as a real team however.
Oh nvm complete derp. I thought you were interested the team for some reason. Nice to see u in anyways
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On the one hand the challenge looks like a lot of fun, on the other I know I won’t have time to do the RP bits with any frequency that would do it justice.
So I’ll just post the car I would have brought, if that’s alright.
FOR SALE: 1999 GNOO CITISCAPE GT (COUPE!!!)
Ad by Joe’s Used Car and Salvage Yard
$2000 OBO
Do not miss the once-in-a-lifetime chance to own this fast and luxurious piece of automotive beauty for a shockingly low price! This metallic blue sportscar has the lauded and reliable 2.2l V6 EcoBeest engine, which puts out 200hp through a five-speed automatic gearbox to take you from 0-100 in under 8 seconds. The premium infotainment system gives a stunning sound experience even by today’s standards and the leather seats will make you hesitate every time you have to get out of it. The sporty performance, however, does not mean it’s a guzzler, because it’s still a Gnoo and only drinks 8l of fuel per 100km on a city cycle thanks to the electronic multipoint fuel injection system.
Image shown is vehicle of same make, model and colour (source internet). Come see this suave speedster on the lot!
P.S. We are legally obligated to notify you that the vehicle is technically a salvage title due to a minor incident with an overturned ferry and the subsequent being washed ashore. There is minor salt water damage (see small text) to the electrical system, interior and surface rust. There is also damage on the interior, apparently from some kind of wildlife, which we have definitively fixed with high quality duct tape. The car runs and drives great! Call today to schedule a viewing and we’ll throw in a set of seat covers.
(To have mercy on your eyes, imagine this is tiny text.)
The car has local and general rust on the steel panels and chassis. Minor holes. The mold under the seats and on the carpeting has been treated with a suitable product, however may technically remain harmful to your health. The engine has some difficulty coming on, or when it is running, shutting off. The various engine status lights may present a minor hazard to people who have experienced seizures (while the vehicle is running). The windows on the left go up, but will not come down. The windows on the right go down, but will not come up. The headlights are activated by turning the AC to the position “2”, high beams are handily found as a dual-function of the windshield wipers. Car may not always have 200hp. We literally found this on the beach one day, contacted the owner and he wasn’t interested okay?
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We took a few photos in the shop to better show off the styling… if you can call it that. After a mechanic pointed it out, we can’t unsee it, the car is a near twin of the the Saturn SL2. I guess the bland name “Bil” (automobile in Swedish) was not the only thing they spent no effort on when creating this cheap little car.
(yes I gave up on the photoshop for the other 2 pictures, I couldn’t find a suitable background in the 10 minutes I spent searching)
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Haha I already asked via PM as well … do we get a working school bus for $500?
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I think we are making a intertwined lore but different cars, I’m already picking up a broken trans and shit engine 90s lift back, or that’s my plan
I can imagine, now I’m imagining what if Sean Connery were playing a Jewish man instead of Irish
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Green Turd Racing
The Team:
Lupus: A 15-year-old hyperactive child with a learner license and a short temper who “fixed” a chainsaw once by replacing the clogged air-filter with an old sponge and now considers himself a mechanic, is a wiz at following instructions found on the internet.
Beth: Lupus’ 83-year-old grandmother who has agreed to accompany lupus on the journey being that Lupus is a learner driver and his parents would not allow him to take part if they knew about it. She will pretty much do nothing but sit in the passenger seat and knit sweaters, but at least this is one team that will not go cold. Unbeknownst to Lupus she has never actually held a vehicle license.
The Car: 1965 Shaphe 800
Lupus: Who needs $500 when a beautiful old classic like the 1965 Shaphe (Sha-Fay) 800 crashes into the front porch of your parents’ house, while you’re screaming at your useless Overwatch teammates to get on the objective. The previous owner ran away before anybody could react, (obviously realising that the damage is worth more than the car) and that is how I came into possession of possibly the worst car ever made.
Surprisingly the car suffered very little damage in the crash save for both headlights which I replaced with a couple of old torches I found in the attic and some half dead batteries out of mums “adult toys”.
Other “modifications” include removing the rusty old exhaust that was hanging loose after the crash, hence the car now requires earmuffs to drive (or in grandmas case turning down her hearing aid), cushions for the ridiculously uncomfortable ride, a shower scraper for wiping down the windscreen when it rains, 200hp worth of scratch and sniff stickers plastered on the rear window, racing stripes and some fluffy dice to hang from the roof where the mirror once was.
From factory this beauty(piece of shit) produced a whopping(dreary) 40 horsepower from its 800cc 3 cylinder engine which is delivered to the rear wheels via a 2-speed column shifter, the Shaphe 800 certainly isn’t going to be the fastest car in the competition, it may not even make it up the first hill, but don’t be surprised if it eventually crawls over the finish line…
Beth: On the back of a tow truck…
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oh whew. 4 people team?
me, @Sillyducky, @FrankNSTein, and @JohnWaldock ?
or do we just wanna split into 2 teams?
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Team Bamford
The Team
Ken Clark: The 70 something owner of Bamtech Supercars, who make small batches of Super/Race cars under the name “Bamford”, which was a sports car company run by Ken from 1966 - 2006.
Jason Clark: Ken’s 24 year-old Grandson, an amateur racer and part-time 7/11 Attendant.
Phillip Glasse: Jason’s 23 year-old friend, A Youtube trained mechanic who owns at least 2 Toyotas at any given time.
Simon Bhatt: The 18 year-old grandson of Teuton founder Ranvir Bhatt- the Indian sister company to Bamford that specialized in industrial engines and cheap sports cars.
The “Car”
1997 Bamford Advance
Ken had been skeptical about his grandson’s crazy idea to go roaring around in an old bomb for two days, but, eager to enjoy his life a little bit more,he had agreed to ride with the boys as a riding mechanic, after all, he’d built LeMans and Grand Prix winners in his day, sure he wasn’t as agile or as eager as he was a few years ago, but doing a little roadside maintenance on some old Baltazar (or even a KHT if he was lucky) seemed like a nice way to spend a few days with his grandson and his mates.
It wasn’t.
Jason, Phillip and Simon arrived in a car outside Ken’s house and he eagerly went outside to see what car they had bought.
“You’ll love it pop!” called Jason “It’s a Bamford!”
Ken smiled, if there were any cars that he knew, it was the ones he’d built himself and for $500 it was going to be something simple, like an old Laguna or Teuton with a nice, easy to maintain engine.
It wasn’t.
Ken quickly frowned when he saw the car that the 3 boys were pointing out to him.
“How’d you buy that for ($500 USD)?”
Jason smiled “Never you mind!”
“These sold for ($200,000 USD) Jason, how did you buy it for ($500 USD)?”
The car in question was an IG Advance Luxus-Boot, a top-end luxury limo from 1996 that came with a 1000hp V8 and a top speed of around 340km/h.
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Ken began looking carefully at the car and realized it wasn’t an IG Advance, it was an IA Advance, the V6 version from 1994 that had been poorly modified to look like an IG, with an obnoxious hood scoop on the bonnet and lots of cheap chrome plating.
“You wanted to know how it cost $500?” asked Simon “Start it up”
Ken reluctantly climbed into the car and gave the V6 a kick, surprisingly it started, albeit rough, in fact, too rough for a V6…
“This is rattling like crazy!” called Ken
“Don’t worry, It’s a Good old engine” said Phillip “A real Workhorse”
Ken sighed, linking the hints together “Are you telling me you bought a base model IA, dressed up as an IG with a 3 Cylinder lighting plant generator in the engine bay?”
“Sure did, it took a bit of work but I’ve even got some decent power from the engine” said Phillip “All I had to do was tighten up the cam, change some bolts and wind back the timing a bit and it’s running sweet!”
“So it’s been retarded? How fitting.” mumbled Ken
Jason shot his grandfather a dirty look.
“It only takes 35 seconds to reach 90mph too!” continued Phillip, unaware of the scorn he was getting.
Ken sighed harder than before, he looked around the cabin at all the ill-fitting trim and asked one last question “Has this car been rolled over?”
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The Bamford-Teuton Workhorse 3.5L I3
The car came from a luxury car collector whose son had done up a V6 IA as a project car before crashing the car and heading to university, the father fixed the damage and then gave the car to his youngest son who wrecked the engine, put the last of the awful trim on and finally spent ages fitting a Bamford generator engine into the engine bay just so he could take the car to the local supermarket to impress the ladies.
Amazingly it worked and now that the youngest son is married the family has no use for the car and with it being a sorry bastard-dog of a car, the father sold it to the first fool who came along. Phillip Glasse was buying a Toyota Crown from the father who also offered the Bamford for a measly 300 pounds, just to be rid of the thing. Phillip then held onto the car for a while before finding out about the challenge and decided to finally do something with the car that had been sitting in his parents yard for a year.
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Ken’s Notes:
V6 replaced with a worn Inline 3 that has been modified by an untrained fool.
Car has high amounts of rust in rear panels and most body panels damaged from “conversion” work and noticeable floor-pan rust from sitting in long grass.
It’s been involved in a mid-speed collision, as the front end is bent and askew, though the suspension still lines up fine and the airbags and ABS have been reset and repaired.
The front springs have been cut to lower the car while the back has 100kg of Barbell weights welded into the rear compartment to weigh the car down…
All Interior trim shows some severe levels of damage, aside from the front passenger seat
Only dashboard instrument that works is the temperature gauge.
Gearbox shakes like crazy when selecting reverse, forward gears are fine, especially for an old auto like this one.
It just generally looks awful.
Also, a separate video just to document the lovely chuffing noise that the I3 makes at idle:
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Captin’s Log, Stardate 70789.9.
After talking with the mechanics and among each other we decided the car was not stupid enough for showing off to other people (we had to assume others were going to be participating in this event). If we really wanted to stand out, we had to take this little 4 banger to its limits… without dropping money into it. The first order of business was boosting the turbo to the moon and praying it didn’t explode. After some talk with the shop mechanics and some online research we figured out the installed turbo could be rigged up to produce a whopping 1.22 bar of boost! To support this massive boost increase we needed to up the ARF, upping it from 13.2:1 to 12.6:1 seemed to be about as much as we could squeeze from the engine. The engine was still running rough and producing poor power. We did not want to reduce boost pressure, and after the rigging we did on the turbo I don’t think we really could have if we wanted to, which meant jumping to the last resort, shaving down the already shaved piston heads to reduce the compression ratio and hopefully get the engine running well again.
Jump to a few hours and a borrowed lathe later, and we finally have an engine worthy of “ricer” status. We took some video of the engine on the dyno to show you how terrible it sounds in the low end, and just how piercing the turbo has become… but the results are undeniable. 322 NM of torque at 3100 RPM and 220 HP at 6100 RPM! Not only are we making 31 more HP than the original turbo mod, but a staggering 87 more HP than the stock engine! Not only that, but the car now does 0-100 kmh in a respectable 6.4s, more than half-a-second faster than the original turbo mod, and almost 3 seconds faster than the stock car. We also have some nice burnout capabilities from a stop, thanks to the ridiculous torque spike below 3000 RPM.
In addition to tuning the turbo, we also found out that the Bil has a rev limiter installed from the factory to increase reliability for the eco version of this engine. Removing this limiter took the redline from 6500 to 6700 RPM, not a huge difference, but the dyno tells us it was worth 0.1s off our 0-100 kmh time. Inspecting the car led us to conclude we had to do something with the rusting exhaust system. It looked like the exhaust was made from unprotected steel, it was basically just dust at this point. So off to the junk yard we went.
We spent a few hours at the junkyard trying to find some suitable car to steal exhaust parts from. We needed a cat and some pieces of straight pipe, and a muffler would be nice. Ryan and I argued for a while about what size of piping to look for, what car might have a suitable exhaust, etc. while Jason wondered around. A few minutes later Jason yelled for us, we followed his voice towards the back of the lot. Coming around a corner at the far end of the junkyard, right along the fence line, we saw Jason standing in front of a massive, lifted, 4x4. Now normally this would not have been helpful in the least bit, but it seems the previous owner of the truck went a bit Mad Max on it. There was exhaust pipe all over this thing, it looked more like a musical instrument than a car. But it was just what we needed to piece together our own exhaust system. We went to work cutting up the smaller tubing, 3.5", and pulling off a nice high-flow cat buried deep in the maze of tubing. Once we had a nice selection of pipe pieces we were a bit dismayed to realize the truck had no mufflers on it, and the day was running short to scour the junkyard much longer. Luckily as we were on our way out of the yard we happened across an over-turned sedan of some sort. it was smashed beyond recognition, but it was presenting us its under-belly, complete with a muffler in un-smashed condition. It only took us a moment to measure the muffler and confirm it would fit our 3.5" tubing, and another minute to saw it away from the vehicle’s carcass. in addition to the muffler, the car also gifted us with a couple of belts from the engine bay, surely one of these would fit the A/C in our car. Pleased with our haul we headed back to the repair shop to get to work tacking together our Frankenstein exhaust. We already knew the crazy high boost on the engine would kill it sooner rather than later, so exhaust system longevity was not a big concern.
Once the exhaust was adequately routed and the A/C brought back to life, we had to cut a little more of the front bumper away as the engine was running a bit hot. All in all, a good days work. Since we knew the mechanics pretty well than only charged us $20 for the dyno and another $20 to borrow their welder. For $40 we made this car a proper rice-beater… even if it may only live another year now.
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SUPER TEAM!!!
Just curious… how did you know where to get the batteries? And Ewwwwwwww!