W.H.A.L.E of an Order (Reviews)

Uh oh. I come in on the bad side of a lot of those numbers… Looks like Storm Automotive plans for consistency this time, too, to end up somewhere in last place.

Pretty sure I’ll be down there with you, Madrias.

Not so sure about this one, did save a lot of money though. Still slightly below or on average for most stats except those concerning money. Then again those are not valued that highly.

I wanted to have 5th to 20th posted tonight, but I am still out and will likely need to get to sleep once home from work. Expect results and reviews hopefully this Sunday evening Pacific time.

Also Tycondero, there was no reason to save money, the limit was 40k and it was not a weighed stat.

I’m low on prestige (eh… 6 cylinders) but maybe my comfort will save me from misery.

[quote=“Lordred”]

Also Tycondero, there was no reason to save money, the limit was 40k and it was not a weighed stat.[/quote]

I thought it mattered tbh, error on my behave then. So, will likely not win nor come in the top 5. Too bad, the car looks so great. Ah well, never like almost unlimited funds like challenges. I find it crazy to crank up quality for very little gain.

I think the vast majority of us found that to be a bit of a challenge, which goes to show how few of us are invested in this kind of car. That also makes this challenge pretty unique, and one of the uncommon examples of how setting a hard, unweighted limit on costs changes the focus. I also found myself wondering how to twiddle with the tech sliders, but at least I knew I had a ceiling so it made sense to aim for that. Same with the fuel economy

I started and made what initially was a really nice 17k car. Then I went through and made little changes here and there until I was slightly shy of 40k. I don’t tend to build for 40,000.

Wondering whether it still makes sense for me to continue inside this challenge. See no reason to, as winning is no longer possible and misjudged the rules. Maybe I should save the disgrace of coming in last with this car and retract.

Why would you do that, winning is not everything, and there are no losers here, only people who didn’t get reviews. What is important is having fun building the vehicle and if you are anything like I am, adhering to your own rules while following those placed before you.

If fear of not being on the top would make you want to withdraw, why enter?

It obviously depends on how seriously you take yourself and how much stock you place on this. Does your performance in these contests have any bearing on how you see the fortunes of your company? Judging by your posts, you seem to take things really seriously, so… well, I don’t think any of us can decide for you. Just make up your mind before Lordred posts anyway :stuck_out_tongue: Oh, I guess it also depends on whether it would affect scoring in any way, speaking of which:

Lordred, could you please remind us on what kind of scale this contest is scored? Is it arithmetic weightings? Exponential? Statistically corrected to a normal or relative to the field, as in Conan’s contest? I’m interested to know because it’ll help me figure out how much my score is reflected in my sacrificing safety (to a high degree) for the benefit of the other heavily weighted stats. I mean, my safety is likely to be one of the lowest in the field, which might really badly affect my car despite having superior stats in every other field except maintenance costs.

This one is Arithmetic weighting using the Medians to help determine how strong a stat should influence the final score. I was very happy with this one as once all was said and done the top 13 were with in 6% of each other in the final score, and the difference between 1st and 20th grows to 18%, and finally, the difference between 1st and 4th is only 2.9%

Belive me when I say I was very happy with the results. Further more, the Benchmark car I built would of placed 17th, the cars everyone built were solid.

Thanks.

Yeah I would be surprised to score a review, if I’d held off on the ludicrous engine I would have probably put more money into the safety instead, but noooo, I had to be me :stuck_out_tongue:

I view it as just another day in the building life of Storm Automotive. I’m the upstart with no defined plan, and so a loss in a challenge helps show me what I need to focus on. But then again, I’m not overly serious with it, either. I have fun first and join challenges to expand my knowledge through trying something, rather than building the same old eco-boxes or the same SUV with a 3000 horsepower engine in it. As I said, I had to think on how to get close to 40,000 without going over, something I’m not used to having to do. Normally, my hard limit is lower than my average build price, so I have to decide on what needs to be stripped back, what compromises to take.

This, I built a car and was confident in the engine (That 5.0 liter Royalty V8 goes in a lot of my bigger cars) so I didn’t really change much on it. I made the car better, more expensive, but the engine is my basic semi-powerful, 286 horsepower beast. It stands to be possibly a little underpowered, actually, but I didn’t want to go all-out with the twin turbos, just enough to push the fuel efficiency up.

And perhaps I made my mistake there, in caring about fuel efficiency when it wasn’t mentioned as needed, but it’s a core value of Storm Automotive, that one should design to either be fast or be efficient. It’s as much a core value to me as having a turbo on every engine. The end result, I’m fairly sure my car will do poorly as a luxury car, but I will give it a valiant effort nevertheless, and if I get to bump-draft someone on the race track in a forty-thousand dollar luxury car, then that’s even better.

As for getting reviewed, I’m very doubtful. My car’s a bunch of compromises that were, perhaps, the wrong ones to make.

[quote=“Lordred”]Why would you do that, winning is not everything, and there are no losers here, only people who didn’t get reviews. What is important is having fun building the vehicle and if you are anything like I am, adhering to your own rules while following those placed before you.

If fear of not being on the top would make you want to withdraw, why enter?[/quote]

Yes, you are right. Leave the car in. It is just that I was shocked to to read your comment and then realized that cost didn’t matter at all. For me, it was just, not expected. :confused:

Tycondero - trust me, I had issues with the cost as well. It goes against everything that Ardent and Suzume stand for. I had to add items I would never use normally, and rely more heavily on sliders than I normally would. It’s an exercise in getting out of my comfort zone, honestly.

Madrias - And that allows you to play around and figure out what kinds of cars you’re good at building and what your company will eventually become… At least in my opinion. :slight_smile:

[quote=“VicVictory”]Tycondero - trust me, I had issues with the cost as well. It goes against everything that Ardent and Suzume stand for. I had to add items I would never use normally, and rely more heavily on sliders than I normally would. It’s an exercise in getting out of my comfort zone, honestly.

Madrias - And that allows you to play around and figure out what kinds of cars you’re good at building and what your company will eventually become… At least in my opinion. :slight_smile:[/quote]

When I built my car I thought it would be expensive from the get go, once I hit the final button I saw roughly $16k…wow did I need to use the sliders for things as well. Was VERY strange and also very liberating to not be so constrained on price for once, yes the hard limit was there but it gave you enough room to make your car unique. I had a blast making this car and hope you guys did as well. Dont give up Tycondero, IMO your car looked great as well, if aesthetics were a stat I believe yours would score high.

[quote=“VicVictory”]Tycondero - trust me, I had issues with the cost as well. It goes against everything that Ardent and Suzume stand for. I had to add items I would never use normally, and rely more heavily on sliders than I normally would. It’s an exercise in getting out of my comfort zone, honestly.
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Have you ever seen a 40.000k cost Znopresk? I was out of the comfort zone too… even if I had a huge comfort into the car (above 85 :stuck_out_tongue:)

That awkward moment when you realize…

CRAP, I didn’t even LOOK at servicing costs! :open_mouth:

I suppose that doesn’t really matter for a giant luxury sedan though. What does interest me is that the average engine size is 5.5 Liters, so a lot of people must have gone for a much smaller engine.

:astonished:

Wow!!! I can’t imagine what level of comfort that might even entail… And I thought 70+ was high already… Oh… Chance of review rapidly fading…

:laughing: